Like it or not, @gargron is right. Showing vulnerability is easier when people literally can’t quote-post anything you say to throw people at you. And that design visibly shapes communities and heals people

@matilde @gargron I agree! One of the first things I realized upon moving to Mastodon was what a mistake "retweet with comment" was. Not only can it be used to make fun of people, it also encourages rebroadcasting things you disagree with...which is so backwards when you think about it...!

The thing that was getting me down the most on birdsite, I think, was good people retweeting harmful things, even if it was to complain about it.

@Lexi @matilde @Gargron I think opposite, from my point of view it's one of the best Twitter features and I miss it a lot on Mastodon. It allows you to react and be visible in the timeline at the same time. To achieve it on Mastodon you have to reply and boost your own toot, which looks desperate.

@Mac_CZ @Lexi @matilde @Gargron Perhaps we should be less concerned with appearances and visibility... not all reactions need to be public, either. The existence of the feature encourages exactly those bad behaviors you just described.


@trwnh @Lexi @matilde @Gargron From my point of view it's not bad behavior, so it's good to encourage it. As with everything: If you don't like it, don't use it, but don't take away the possibility from the others. That's evil behavior.

@Mac_CZ @trwnh @Lexi @gargron I’ve described how this design avoids the incentive to hurt others on purpose. You haven’t addressed this at all beyond “well I don’t think that, and moreover, any purposeful design is evil!”

@matilde @trwnh @Lexi @Gargron It doesn't prevent anything, it's still possible to do screenshot and post it with comment. If somebody feels hurt by some post (which seems bit childish), there are standard ways, like block.

@Mac_CZ @matilde @trwnh @gargron If it's childish to be hurt by a post, why does Mastodon have content warnings? :blobmelt:

@Lexi @matilde @trwnh @Gargron I don't know, seems like completely useless annoyance. Probably to force you to buy new mouse, when you destroy the old one with pointless clicking to every CW post.

@Mac_CZ @matilde @trwnh @gargron I think I'd feel a little selfish if I said, "I'm not affected by [X], so I'm not going to use a content warning for [X]."

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